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« Thread started on: Oct 14th, 2008, 8:03pm »
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I personally tend to discount the appearance of orbs for the most part. I realize that there are those instances of energy manifestations in the form of orbs or "balls of light." However, most photographic/video evidence is capturing more mundane items such as dust, insects, reflections, etc. What are your opinions on orbs as evidence?
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« Reply #1 on: Oct 18th, 2008, 1:41pm »
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In order to consider orbs as a source of evidence, they need to meet the following criteria:
  • They need to be capable of generating their own light. This includes the ability to utilize the energy produced by a piece of equipment, such as the burst from a camera flash.
  • They need to exhibit movement during the time that the camer's shutter is open. We use very fast shutter speeds in order to eliminate the blurring that can occur with slower moving debris such as dust, pollen, and moisture.
  • They need to exhibit color and three-dimensional characteristics.
  • They need to exhibit intelligent characteristics, such as reappearing in front of the camera over and over and then streaking across the field of vision while the shutter is open.
  • They need to be accompanied by supporting evidence, such as an EVP, high EMF pollution, or other "hard" evidence.


As a group, we take great care before utilizing orb photographs as evidence. BUT, at the same time, if the criteria above is used as a "checklist", then orb photography can be very compelling proof that something paranormal is afoot.

Does that answer your question?
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« Reply #2 on: Oct 18th, 2008, 8:46pm »
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Thanks.

Absolutely. I see so many instances of orbs that turn out to be artifacts or dust, etc. I also like to know about or look for sources of air movement/circulation/ventilation in the area of the alleged orb that could account for particulate movement. The most convincing I have seen have been ones that have moved with purpose or intent.

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« Reply #3 on: Oct 19th, 2008, 2:16pm »
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Then you fit right in around here! I have some really compelling pics that I would love to share with you and ask your opinion of. I will bring them to the "New Member" meeting on the 26th, if you would like to see them.
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« Reply #4 on: Oct 19th, 2008, 2:27pm »
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Absolutely!

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« Reply #5 on: Nov 18th, 2008, 8:20pm »
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I have to agree. If anyone wants to try an experiment- rub your hand across a surface and take a pic. I bet it looks the same. Unless it glows from its own light source, or better yet someone in the pic is reacting to something near them, then don't show me dust.
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« Reply #6 on: Dec 15th, 2008, 10:14pm »
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Good Point Robin! cheesy
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« Reply #7 on: Jan 2nd, 2009, 09:44am »
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On the subject of orbs. The other night Dustin took Angela and myself to a tunnel in Rockbridge County (just outside of Lexington). He had captured an EVP there a week before and wanted us to go with him to see if we could see/hear anything. We had snapped tons of pictures on our digital cameras and saw many "orbs." I set the pictures to negative using a photostudio program I have. I recall Shea telling me you can tell if the orb is real by setting the pictures to negative... or was did I misunderstand?
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« Reply #8 on: Jan 2nd, 2009, 1:18pm »
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Actually, that's what I said - sort of. The full context of the comment was that, if you set the picture to "negative", it is oftentimes very easy to tell the position in space occupied by the orb. You can tell if part of it is behind something else, for example (which would, of course, would nix the argument that it was dust, etc).
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« Reply #9 on: Jan 2nd, 2009, 1:22pm »
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« Reply #10 on: Jan 2nd, 2009, 5:57pm »
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Okay... I understand more fully now. Thanks. Anyway... just to get opinions. Without negation they appeared to give off their own light; however, I did set the pictures to negative. The "orbs" in question appeared as a blue/white coloration and were slightly transparent. So, they are probably just dust and debris. Orbs have never really been my strong point of the subject... I have always dismissed them, but I have never seen this many in different pictures from different cameras....
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« Reply #11 on: Jan 2nd, 2009, 6:12pm »
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You might want to bring them to the meeting on the 11th. Orbs can be a great source of controversey. Sometimes it can be really hard to determine if they are legitimate or not. It really helps if you have other evidence- i.e. evp, video, emf spikes, temp change, etc- in conjunction with the photographic evidence of the orb(s).
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« Reply #12 on: Jan 2nd, 2009, 7:18pm »
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I will certainly bring the images to the meeting on the 11th. I am not sure if we captured any EVPs during the time we took the photographs. I have yet to fully listen to my recorders....
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